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Tuesday, December 12, 2006

Good pasta and petty crime

I have not posted in awhile... pretty busy with work. The weekend before last I spent either working or sleeping. It was too cold to go out anywhere. Last weekend I had to work, but I had to get out some and wanted to try a new Italian place that opened in Dalian recently by the Shangri-La hotel called the Olive Garden (not the same as in the US). Phyllis was nice enough to go with me, and the food was very good! Phyllis had a pesto linguini dish with shrimp and I had lasagna. When I was eating I realized I could not remember the last time I had lasagna... not in China anyways.

On Sunday evening I went to Peace Square mall to have dinner at a fast food place, and do some grocery shopping afterwards. While I was eating dinner some guy sat down behind me, and reaching around stole my phone from the pocket of my jacket that I had hanging on my chair. What was strange was that there were people all around us, and a lot of them had to have seen this, but they said or did absolutely nothing! I still can not get use to how uncaring people here are towards others. It just amazes me. When I tell my co-workers that crooks are sometimes chased down by normal citizens in other countries (such as described in this story) they are amazed. People seem happy that there is no violent crime here in Dalian, but I think it's just going to get worse since the police don't do anything and the people don't care. I can not imagine how bad it will get after the the economy eventually changes.

5 Comments:

  • I have discussed this very thing with both Chinese-Americans and Korean Americans and they say that it is because in China and in Korea, there is simply less connection between strangers and it is viewed as the job of the police.

    By Blogger ChinaLawBlog, at 5:11 PM  

  • I think it's just a general fear of putting themselves in a relativly high risk situation. Better to say nothing and remain detached, than get involved with a potentially troublesome situation.

    I heard that a korean kid actually drowned in the pond in labor park a few months ago while a crowd of on-lookers idly looked on. Kinda sad.

    As for the italian food, I've been meaning to check out that place but haven't had a chance so far.
    I have it listed on my site, so if you feel like sharing your experience, please feel free to do so.

    By Anonymous Pandapassport, at 2:19 AM  

  • It's getting to be far too common a story here, it seems, not that I've been there that long. But almost everyone I know has a story like this, where people just sit by and watch somebody else get robbed or assaulted or worse.

    As for the Italian place, I've been meaning to check it out, too. Friends who've been have said good things, so it's on the agenda.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:48 PM  

  • It's getting to be far too common a story here, it seems, not that I've been there that long. But almost everyone I know has a story like this, where people just sit by and watch somebody else get robbed or assaulted or worse.

    As for the Italian place, I've been meaning to check it out, too. Friends who've been have said good things, so it's on the agenda.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:53 PM  

  • Sorry to hear bad news about your phone. I did wish you feel better now. Just like you, we all hope to live in a caring and loving environment.

    I am quite agree with Chinalawblog and pandapassport. My impression is that in China, we do have law system, but it still needs lots of improvement, people sometimes just cannot fully account on it. They have to protect themself, they don't want to put themselves in risk or danger. You know, those thieves and robbers usually crime in groups, you'll never know what will happen if you stand out to fight with them. Even if you call 119, 1 hour should be quite amazing for a policeman come. (that is just what I think, imagine all other cars won't give way to police car with siren, since they siren too much) We've heard many cases that people gave up lives in the fight of bad guys. Even in US, if came a man asking me for some money on the street, what will I do? I bet I'll just give him the money. In fact, I just did it a few days ago to a black guy who claimed he is a good guy and need donation to give him second chance to live.

    But in spite of the danger, still, in China, many people stand out. In my previous ISSC CCMS group, I knew two young man fight with thieves for other people. By the end of 2005, Wang Yun (his id is Yun DL Wang) was trying to prevent one thief to steal another people's purse, 4-5 bad guys come out from invisible and fight him, he got thrust on his hand (even US team knew this and write him email), in fact, the bad guy wanted to aimed to his chest, he protected himself using his hands since he is good at fighting, and luckily, he only got a few stitches on his hand. Another young man, Yuntai Liu, he also caught a thief in the bus, and the bus driver directly drive to police. You know what the police officer said to him in the second day when he went to police for recording the crime, the officer joke him that "hi, you are still alive". A black Humor, isn't it!

    Anyway, I still feel so so sorry for what happened on you, hope you feel a little better now and please be more careful, especially at the time which is close to Christmas and New Year

    By Blogger Kathy, at 9:31 AM  

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